i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.
the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.
Part of settling conflict is taking the other side into consideration.
I agree the diplomacy is necessary and important. It does apparently take a rocket scientist to know that you don't take the side of the enemy just because you don't like the policies of your president. Quite an over reaction in my opinion.
i think bush's method of fighting terrorism only creates more terrorism.
the us government has acted like a terrorist to the people in iraq, such actions canonly lead to more justification in the minds of would be terrorist.
The Muslims world already have animosity towards the US because of thier support of Isreal, among other things.
So what. Why should the US apologize for supporting Israel? The Palestinians have always been treated as the lowest of the low in the Arab world.....by whom? .....by the rest of the Muslim world. The Palestinians are pawns for the rest of the Muslim world.
Your post seems to indicate that the US should be overly concerned with how we are viewed by the Muslim countries. In fact the tone of your post seems to indicate that the US foreign policy should be dictated by the public opinion of foreign nations.
I disagree, I think the US should decide our foreign policy.
so at the bookgroup, the study coductor gives us all a stern warning.
if we receive a turkey - refuse it.
dont accept xmas dinner invitations from work etc.
Because it was in lieu of a Thanksgiving turkey, it probably amounted to less that $50..... so unlike a huge Xmas bonus which she would keep quiet about....I pick
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i was thinking about how i left "the truth" yesterday and got to wondering about the couple of sisters who were directly involved in the beginning of the end for me.
i know it was because of things they personally did to me that led me to believe witnesses were not "a lovable brotherhood".
and i know, they know of the things they did as well.. so here's the thing, i bet they don't feel the least bit guilty or even bad about it.
My MIL who is currently 73, is one of 6 siblings who were raised and remain JW's. Between them, they have raised 17 children as JW's including my wife. Of the 17 kids only one remains an active JW and she is on her way out. What does my MIL have to say about this phenomenon? It is all the kids fault.
She was pretty insulted when after shunning my wife, I told her that the religion of her youth had failed her as a mother.
well, let's all pick out our favorite 'best of the worst'.
teaching found in the publications that just are on the total brink of absurdity.
my vote is in for this 'striking parallel' between the time peroid of jesus life and the 1914-1918 time peroid.
Worst reasoning? The claim of being God's inspired organization and the subsequent explanation of the FDS appointing the Governing Body.
Close #2: Because the early congregation was theocratic and inspired, then if the current JW organization is theocratic it must also be inspired.
well, things have moved on...my jw man has been agonizing over whether he should be seeing me or not?!
if i was a jw it would all be different?!
is that not like saying if i was not "black,american,german,white ect" surely this is racism of some kind?
Ok so we are doomed!!! Does that give me the right to give up so easily?
Yes
If he is dating me and risking all perhaps he has doubt? of course we are doomed anyway...but at least I can live knowing I tried......
He is not risking a thing. Absolutely nothing. You on the other hand are risking everything.
You seem to view love in a romantic fashion i.e. love conquers all, love will find a way....I am romantic, but I also have lived long enough to know that love is.....well it feels good and it makes you do crazy things and feel crazy thoughts, which is cool no doubt.
Remember the movie Titanic.....well they were in love right? Yea and look what happened to him. Romeo and Juliet....look what happened to them. Love conquers nothing, except maybe our logic
You are attempting to start a relationship, and look at the shadow the JW's religion is already casting on the situation. This is a big clue. Don't drink the poison.
well, things have moved on...my jw man has been agonizing over whether he should be seeing me or not?!
if i was a jw it would all be different?!
is that not like saying if i was not "black,american,german,white ect" surely this is racism of some kind?
smily
I'll try to condence my story. I've been married 27 years....never been a JW, married to a 3rd gen JW
I was a nonJW male who at age 18 befriended a female JW 16 (friend of a family member). We had a strictly platonic friendship for two years, until her mother read her diary describing her feelings for me. Her parents stepped in and put an end to the friendship, we were at the time 20 and 18. She moved away, I moved away...I called her about a year later out of the blue. She asked me to come visit her. The relationship turned more than platonic...we got married six months later. During most of our marriage my wife was not an everyday practicing JW.....far from it.....so you would figure that the JW religion couldn't possibly have an effect on our marriage, right ? Wrong.
She was still raised a certain way and with certain JW beliefs. Even though she may not have consciously realized it, she still carried many of the same JW beliefs into her role as a parent.
The things that have caused MAJOR arguements between us as parents : attending church, celebrating holidays, kids participating in sports, kids participating in other activities, our social life with other couples, our roles as parents, whose family was nuttier her JW or my nonJW, on and on...blah, blah, blah.
On top of that, we moved 1200 miles away from her JW parents. Five years later they moved down the street. Her JW mother has tried everything ih her power to convert our kids including constantly going behind our backs and badmouthing us as parents.
My point is this...you not only have a relationship with the person, but also their family. If their family is also JW, then even if your mate is not practicing, then there is still an enormous influence.
When I got married, I never thought that I would argue with my mate about whether or not my kids would play little league baseball or HS football or celebrate holidays.
3 words of advice THINK THINGS THROUGH.
if salvation could be compared to trying to get from los angeles to santa catalina island (about 20 miles out in the pacific) and you could not take a plane, helicopter, or take a boat, but you could only try to jump or swim, then salvation might look like this:.
the typical protestant view of salvation: no matter how strong you are, or how well you can make the long jumps, no one can jump 20 miles.
jesus died and made the jump for you so that you do not have to jump in the first place.
Amazing, I love a good analogy...and this is excellent. Keep up the great work! As Jankyn stated and I can attest to...when you are a nonJW, it is pretty much impossible to converse with a diehard JW about their totally convoluted proprietary ideas.
The one way I can communicate effectively with my JW MIL is through the use of an analogy.
My Sample that actually got my MIL laughing: JW reasoning for theorcratic organization being inspired. The early Christian congregation was theocratic and inspired, therfore if the modern day organization is also theocratic, then it must also be inspired/directed by God.
My analogy is that using the reasoning above, if I wear #23, lace up my Air Nike's, go to the Chicago Stadium and walk onto center court, then I must be considered and can claim to be the modern day Michael Jordan.
Your analogy for salvation is perfect. I shall add it immediately to the repertoire.
after 13years of marriage, today it finally came to an end!.
it felt very strange as i entered into the court room, my attorney on the right and hers on the left.
we were the first group of 15 or 16 case to be heard today.
It wasn't meaningless.
I thought of the day we first met, our first date, the first kiss. I thought of the day of our wedding how beautiful she looked, as she entered the room, how all eyes were on her. Of the family and friends that were there all smiling and happy, the dinner and dancing.
I remember when she was pregnant at the hospital, how she would yell at me to get out of the room and then yell at me for leaving. ( we always joked about that)! I remembered holding our son as I sat at her side....
you are a good man !
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